Book review: Confessions of a Sociopath (M. E. Thomas)

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A couple of weeks ago I went to a yard sale and a book caught my eye, because of its subject matter–a copy of M. E. Thomas’ autobiography, Confessions of a Sociopath: a Life Spent Hiding in Plain Sight.

Ever-fascinated with all things Cluster B, including first-person accounts by narcissists, psychopaths and other antisocial types, I got busy reading that same evening. It took me two weeks to finish the book, when normally I’d devour a book of this length and subject matter in just a few days.

I’m sorry to say, this book was a disappointment. It was a long, painful, boring read. First of all, Ms. Thomas isn’t a very good writer. Full of run-on sentences and endless, dull descriptions of how great she thinks she is because she lacks empathy and a conscience (she seems to think of these as traits only weak or stupid people have, reminding me of Ayn Rand without an iota of the latter’s intelligence), Thomas comes off more as an obnoxious, self-centered, common narcissist than a true sociopath.

Thomas (who owns the website Sociopath World) is not a criminal. She may well be sociopathic in that she seems to take pleasure in cheating, manipulating, hurting, and discarding others, once gleefully watched a possum drown, and admits she enjoys ruining the reputations of people she has worked with. She clearly has no empathy and seems to have no emotions. She crows on endlessly about how her lack of a conscience or any empathy has freed her from having to worry about what others think and therefore indicates what she thinks of as her superior intellect. But like the narcissist she really is, she overvalues her achievements and intelligence. She works as an attorney but doesn’t seem to be able to stay employed for long, and really doesn’t have any other impressive achievements under her belt. Her “theories” about sociopathy are nothing more than rehashes of what other people have already described in psychology texts, and less readable than theirs. Overall, Thomas comes off as self-congratulating, obnoxious, unlikeable, and very shallow. She also comes off as rather dumb.

M. E. Thomas is clearly a malignant narcissist, but by calling herself a “sociopath” you feel like you’ve been the victim of a bait-and-switch (which is in itself sociopathic, I suppose). The cover of the book is a picture of a sinister female mask on a white background, and you open the book expecting something more than you actually get, at least some sort of depth or insight into her own behavior. But Thomas has no real insight and the book reads more like a resume of her fake “achievements” than a dark psychological memoir. She talks about her family, who she describes as neglectful, but she doesn’t seem to think they were particularly abusive. She takes arrogant pride in her “sociopathy,” repeating the word again and again throughout the text, as if to drive home the fact that she really is one, when it seems that she “protesteth too much” and underneath all that bluster, suspects she may not be. That kind of insecurity over the possibility of not really being what one says they are is a lot more typical of NPD than psychopathy or sociopathy, who don’t care what others think of them. Thomas also talks about wanting to have a family and her religion (Mormonism) a lot. Maybe her religion keeps her from acting out against others in more heinous ways and gives her a sort of “cold” conscience that keeps her out of prison, but I sure hope God doesn’t let her have children. She doesn’t seem capable of maintaining a relationship, so that doesn’t exactly work in her favor.

Although narcissists are thought of as having no emotions, it isn’t really true that they don’t, and there are narcissists and sociopaths who have been able to write about themselves in an emotionally engaging, albeit dark and depressing, way. There is rage and hurt and despair seething behind the surface of their words. But Thomas writes in a cold, emotionless way, probably because she’s such a bad writer. As a result, you feel about as excited reading her “memoir” as you’d feel reading the most boring high school textbook–and learn a whole lot less.

The only reason I didn’t feel completely ripped off was because the yard sale copy of this book set me back only $1; if I’d purchased it at full price, I’d be pretty annoyed right now. It was all I could do to even finish this book. It was that boring. Don’t waste your time. If you want to read a good book about sociopathy, read Marsha Stout’s The Sociopath Next Door instead. If you really need to read something that comes “out of the horse’s mouth,” you’d do better with Sam Vaknin.

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This blog is my journal. I just choose to share it with the world instead of keeping everything inside my head. I'm a recovering Borderline and have also struggled with Avoidant Personality Disorder. I also have Complex PTSD due to having been the victim of narcissistic abuse for most of my life. I write mostly about narcissism, because I was the child of a narcissistic mother, and then married to a sociopathic malignant narcissist for 20 years. But there's a silver lining too. In some ways they taught me about myself. This blog is about all that. Not all my articles will be about NPD, BPD or other personality disorders or mental conditions. I pretty much write about whatever's on my mind at the moment. So there's something for everyone here. Blogging about stuff is crack for my soul. It's self therapy, and hopefully my insights and observations may help others too.
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50 Responses to Book review: Confessions of a Sociopath (M. E. Thomas)

  1. I took this one out of the library and never finished it. In fact I’d just gotten started, got bored and took it back before the due date.

    She struck me as a phony too, although I do believe (if the drowning rodent story is true) that she has no empathy. She just struck me as the type who is cashing in on something trending right now.

    I think I got as far as where she talked about the women (or was it just one woman) she got involved with from work and left them hurt, wounded and pining. I remember thinking who would pine over this person? I just felt disgusted and as you said bored because the writing was awful.

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  2. Diana says:

    Funny I wondered if I was the only one! I too got her book from my library and didn’t even get as far as the commenter before me! I saw her on Dr. Phil and he called her out for not being a sociopath. If I had remembered that I wouldn’t have even gotten her book from the library! She is SO boring and a phony!!!

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  3. eightyape says:

    MARTHA STOUT IS A VERY CONFUSED LADY TO BE FRANK HER BOOK IS ACTUALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOCIOPATHIC WRITING ,,,OF THE ALOOF DISATTACHED NARCISSIST.
    DID PDA AUTISM WITH PSYCHOPSATHIC LEARNED TRAITS THATS SHES GRANDIOSLY APPROPRIATED..
    MACHIAVELLIAN BUT OBVIOUS,
    PREDATORY PSYCHOPATHS??
    WELL YOU ONLY SEE THEM THROUGH THE CACKS IN THEIR MASKS OR WHEN THEY AE EXPOSED AND ENARGED AND SHOW THEIR TRUE FEELINGS TOWARD HUMANITY,,,
    MIXTURE OF PITY AND HATRED SO PURE THAT THEY WANT YU TO FEEL IT TOO.
    YU REALLY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE NASTIES?
    TRY SAM VAKNIN. HE WILL MAKE YUR SKIN CRAWL AND SEMANTICALLY EMBED LIES ABOUT WHAT NARCISSIM IS TO MINIMISE JUST HOW DAMN NASTY HE IS..

    THE RE ARE SO MANY FIELDS LOOKING AT THIS…
    HERES SOME TERMS…AUTISM – SPECIFICALLY PDA AUTISM…IS SO NARCISSTIC IT APPEARS PSYCHOPPATHIC BUT ITS BASED IN ANXIETY,,,YET ITS STILL PATHOLOGICAL…FALL FOR THEI CHARMS?
    WELL THEY LEARNT THEM ALL OFF THE [PATHOLOGIUCAL PSYCHOPATH,,,

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    • luckyotter says:

      WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? What is PDA autism? What you describe (PDA autism) sounds a lot like covert NPD. As for Vaknin, I’m not a big fan of the man either but but at least he’s a good writer. Many victims have found his books helpful in spite of the fact he is a diagnosed narcissist. As for Martha Stout, I agree with you her book is flawed but how do you know she is a sociopath/psychopath? I’m not trying to be a smartass but I’m really interested in your answers.

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      • eightyape says:

        HIS BOOK IS A LOT OF HALF DECENT NOT TRUTHFUL ADVICE…AND HE PAINTS NEUROTYPICALITY AS NARCISSTIC TO PRETEND HES NOT THAT DIFFERENT,, A HIGH MACHIVELLIAN WITH POCKETS FIULL OF MONEY..A TOTAL VAMPIRE.. MOMENT TO MOMENT CONMAN,,,
        HE TELLS YOU ALMOST THE TRUTH BUT THEN GRINS ABOUT HOW HE ANTS TO HURT STUFF,,, SO HE TAINTS THE VERY INSIGHTS HE SHARING,, BE VERY CAREFUL OF FOLK WHO FOUND VAKNIN HELPFUL , HIS SITE IS A VICTIM ASESSMENT ROOM FOR FEMALE PSYCHOPATHS LIKE HIS SHIFTY WIFE WHO NOONE LOOKS AT.
        YOU ARE LOOKING AT THERPAEUTIC GUESSING BULLSHIT…
        DELVE INTO THE NEUROSCIENCE AND YOU FIND A WHOLE RAFT OF ANTISOCIAL TYPES WHO ALL COPY THE PSYCHOPATH AND PDA AIUTISTS…
        PDA AUTISM IS STRUCTURAL DISORER..
        NARCISTIC WHATEVER BORDELINE SHITE IS USELESS “THERAPUEUTIC REDACTIVE NONSESNE…
        ITS IN CAPS COS THE BUTTONS STIUCK…

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        • luckyotter says:

          I would never go to Vaknin for therapy (yikes!), or get involved in his discussion groups, but his written material on the subject is useful if you approach it with healthy skepticism and read the works of others also. It gives you a look at what it feels like to be a narcissist from inside the head of one. I would suggest to others not to rely on him for the full picture of NPD (I’m not one of his groupies), but use it in conjunction with the opinions of psychologists and survivors of narcissistic abuse for a fuller picture.

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  4. eightyape says:

    I WILL PRECEDE TO SPEW LINKS OUT THAT YU CAN DISSEMINATE INTO INSIGHT,,,I GOT TOO MUCH….I WAS IN THEIR A LONG TIME COLLECTING NOTES…
    I BELIEVE THE PSYCHOPATH MOTHER IS A CREATURE THAT ABUSES WHILST YUR IN THE WOMB…MY HYPERVIGLANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO EXACTLY HOW MUCH SQUASHING HER HANDS WERE DOING AT ANY GIVEN TIMNE,, SMOTHERING,,, LITERALLY, CAUSING DISTRESS AND SOOTHING..
    THESE ARE MY FIRST MEMOREIS,,,IMPRINTED ON MY PERSONALITY..
    HERES THE LIST OF LINKS…
    GOOGLE THEM.
    THERES GOLD.
    ESSI VIDDING OIN THE LINKS BETWEEN PSYCHOPATHY AND AUTISM
    PDA AUTISM..A FACTOR OF OINSIGHT AND CULTURAL DENIAL ASSITED BY PSYCHOPATHS… ANXIETY BASED PSYCHOLOGICAL INSTINCTUAL DFENSIVENESS BORN OF ANXIETY AND NEED FOR CONTROL,,,
    AND THIS…
    THIS IS WAY BEYOND THE WORK OF SOME OF THE EXPERTES…
    http://www.riseandstand.net/recognizing-the-four-types-of-adult-bullies-keeping-calm/
    THEY ARE QUITE TYPIFIED AND I KNOW MANY WHO SHARE TRAITS BUT THESE TYPES FIT THE BULLIES IN MY LIFE PERFECTLY,,, THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN THEM TO CREATE THIS SO CALLED RAPE CULTURE WHICH OFT STALLS THE DEBATE COS IV=VE GOT BALLS AND I AM DIAGNOSED WITH ASPD,
    IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THE SCREAMING TO STOP SO THEY CALLED ME BIPOLAR, THEN BPD, THEN FINALLY ASPD WHEN I WOULDNT TALK TO THE PSYCHOPATHIC NARC AUTISTIC PSYCHS.OUT OF INSTINCT.
    I GOT OUT…ID NEVER COMMITED A CRIME OTHER THAN BEING SOOOOO DIFFERENT AND SOOOOOO NAUGYTY AND JUST OUT OF CONTROL AND SCARY AND ETC ETC ETC , 7 OTHER FAMILY MEBERS AND A BIT OF A RUMBUNCUOUS SCHOOL RECORD AND LOTS OF STEALING FOOD COS THEY WOULD STARVE ME AND I HAD A GLUTEN ADDICTION I WAS FEEDING,,,
    BUT OINCE TTHEY HAD LITERALLY FED ME TO THE SYTEM AFTER DRIVING ME MAD?
    NOT THEIR PROBLEM ANY MORE,,THROWN AWAY LIKE THE EMOTIONAL TRAINING DUMMY I WAS..
    BUT THEY ARENT ALL PSYCHOPATHS,,,SOME OF THEM ARE AUTISTIC…AS IN TOTALLY LACKING EMPATHY BUT NOT ACTUALLY NASTY,,,
    THATS LITERALLY THE ;LEFT HANDED ONES..
    PAIR OF EM,, MORE EFFICIENT AND SOCIALLY ADAPTABLE THAN MY PARNETS WHO ARE STAID BEAURUACRATIC TYPES,,,
    MY FATHER VERY SUCCESSFUL,,
    IM JUST SPILLING IT OUT..
    MORE LINKS..
    OR MORE SHARING….I DARENT. REALLY SHARE ITS FUCKING TOO UNREAL…
    IVE GOT THAT CASSANDRA THING,, COEM ALL OVER HISTRIONIC WHEN MY CAPS IS STUCK…
    BUT THAT LIKE?
    MEANS A LOT..
    TA.

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    • luckyotter says:

      Thank you for the links, I will be reading up on this. I never heard of PDA autism before. I’m sorry you had to go through all that crap and you developed a character disorder because of it. It’s a common belief that autism/Aspergers people lack empathy, but I don’t think that’s really true. In fact, many Aspies I know are so overwhelmed by the emotions of others around them that thye have to leave the room or act inappropriately, but it’s not because of lack of empathy, it’s because they don’t have the social skills to cope with the emotions they do feel. Do you believe you really have ASPD, and if so, what sort of emotions do you experience? It sounds like you have lots of anger. I can’t say I blame you for that but what do you do about it? Sorry about all the ?s but you’ve raised some interesting points here.

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      • eightyape says:

        I HAVE NON PATHOLOGICAL ASPD PTSD HYPERVIGILANCE ALL EMOTIONAL CONSEQUENES OF BRIEING WHOLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN EMOTIONAL UPBRINGING..
        I HAD A LITTLE HELP THOUGH VERY BRIEF AND FLEETING…THEY MOVED US EVERY FOUR YEARS…
        ACTIVELY NOT ALLOWING YOU TO FORM BONDS OUTSIDE THE FAMILY BY NOT FORMIN ANY THEMSLEVES,,,OTEHR PEOPLE ARENT REALLY IMPORTANT APART FOM THOSE THAT THEY “OWN”…
        THEY “OWN” EACH OTHER TOO,,THEY RANK EACH OTHER WITH THEIR COSILLY MACHIVELLIAN SKILLS,
        TRULY FUCKING AWFUL..THEY ARE PHYSICALLY INERT THOUGH… I DOUBT YOU AS BEING A BIT AUTISTIC MAYBE??
        ID SAY THAT RATHER THAN BORDERLINE,,,
        DONT YU EVEN THINK ABOUT WALKING THAT SIDE OF IT!!!
        THERE ISNT ONE,,,
        AS SOMEONE TRIED TO ESTABLISH …THE CODTORS ARE FUCKING CLUELESS APART FORM OLD ROBERT AND THE GUTYS AT CORNELL AND FEW OTHERS,, VIDDING ETC…
        THE WHOLE IDEA OF NARCISSISM HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY BADGED FEMINISTS WHO LACK EMPATHY FO RMEN IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS…
        THERFORE CEMINTIN GTHE IDEA THAT MEN EAUAL TOUGH EQUAL NOT EMOTIONAL.
        EMOTIONAL TOUGHNESS IS THE ONLY THING IM MADE OF…
        AND DESEARCH.

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  5. eightyape says:

    I COME FROM A FAMILY OF SEVEN AND HAVE SPENT MY WHOL EOFE IN PSYCHOPATHIC ENVIRONEMENTS, I KNOW NOTHING ELSE…
    EVERYWHERE IS PSYCHOPATHIC…
    IM AN EMPATH..
    THE AUTISTS PROPAGATAE IT BLINDLY TOTALLY UNDIAGNOISED,, THEY SELECT FOR JOBS DIFFERENT TYPES OF AUTISM IN FACT THE BRITISH ARE SO UNSELF AWARE…AMERICA HAVE THE NUMBERS 1 IN 45
    ITS MORE LIKE 1 IN 20 HERE.
    AND 2 IN 100 IS APSYCHOPATH,
    AND 15% OF AUTISTS ARE CAPABLE OF REALLY COMTEMPLATING THE CONCEPT OF THE PSYCHOPATH,,
    ITS VERY DIFFIUCULT AND VERY NASTY..
    THINK FREE.
    FOR YOURSELF, IN THE WAY YOU DO.
    THATS MY ONLY ANSWER,..

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    • luckyotter says:

      Wait….you say you are an empath but in another comment you said you were diagnosed with ASPD. How is it possible to be both? Or did I misunderstand and you actually have Aspergers? Sorry, I’m a little confused here.

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      • eightyape says:

        when you tell the psychopaths to fuck off, ? they lock you up….what yu think psychiatrists are?
        lol…
        pda autism or psychopathy stat. apart from a few aspergers ones and they do research..
        yu get a few bleeding hearts but the psychs?
        ive met about 100,
        and if i was structural autistic pathological aspd.
        i wouldnt be free ,,,,ever,,,not if they knew.,,,noty woith my history of pummeling heads..
        i only pummel ones that deserve it:)
        the only time i got charged was when they came in uniform.
        just cxant help knocking me out a bully…
        oops..
        im “emotionally reactive” ya see.
        i was borderline till i came to terms with it,,,
        now i just swing , no shouting,, if you need to meet the floor thats where yu go.
        so i go from bordeline to cold hard psychopath…they locked me in with killers and real psychopaths,,,,yu get aspd quick or yu get stabbed and yu dont talk to the screws ,,,or yu get stabbed,,etc etc.
        i met one good psychiatrist once , she wasnt very good,, she could see i was strung out on ativan lorazepam,,,
        so she cut my dose,,
        the other guy who wanted them didnt like that and whn i got cornered and robbed?
        i was seen to be “holding out” ,, stil cant breathe properlyy out my nose..:)
        ah well..

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        • luckyotter says:

          I don’t think you can just “get ASPD” in prison (as an adult anyway) but I can see why acting as if you do might save your life if you’re stuck in prison with a bunch of real antisocials and sociopaths. I think ASPD is something you develop when very young or not at all, but to survive you might have to act as if, in certain situations if your life is in danger.
          I agree with you many in the psychiatric profession are psychopathic, narcissistic or antisocial, but not all are. My therapist is definitely not any of those but he’s a social worker, not a psychiatrist. Although they aren’t qualified to prescribe meds, I think social workers are more likely to be empaths and truly want to help, since they’re certainly not doing it for the money.

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          • eightyape says:

            well you dont know much then do you.,..look up robert hare,,,
            colloquially im a sociopath,,,i am capanble of sociopathic behaviour,,i have traits learned in childhood of antisocial behaviours but i have empathy..
            my family howvere? never been i any SERIOUS trouble all thier lives but they are pedos , incestuous autistic obsessive adhd, pda autism narcisstic psychoaths..
            im not im just t thug who knows what apsychopathis and isnt afre=iad to poiint one out…then the furniture starts flying cos thats considered antisocial..
            http://www.kcl.ac.uk/ioppn/news/records/2012/May/The-antisocial-brain.aspx
            theres the doifference,, no psychopath would be quite so honest and call you an autistic twit…
            the label is not the structural pathological side of the disorder,,, psychpopathy of the svere or primary type?
            is a brains tructure thing..
            they are 2 in 100 in the uk…
            and the sources of all the sociopathic behaviour…
            with insight??
            well im tuned to my incredibly high empathy in an emotional sense now..im not just using it to feel and hide and feel and hide and feel etc…
            my social workers have alll either been useless flos with soft vocies who would make better nannies or leering over involved peopleobsessives..the last one locked me up for body odour and beinbg manic..
            seriously thats what my section papoers say..
            i went back with insight into psychopathy to get the help for my family that i receieved…it was always designed for them..
            but no they didnt wnat to know about historic child abuse..
            im apsychopath already , not to be believed..
            did you not know the network? lol?
            one of my psychs? daryl britto?
            went to school with cameron,,
            i proved he was talking shit with how he had “Cur3ed ” me with is pills …thats when i went from bpd to psychopath,,,aspd sorry,,
            its just bullshit porsecutorial to make you disbleived ,, like yur at,,,
            wind yer neck in love,,you call me a psychopath
            ill show you how angry a scosiopath gets when yu mistake him for a pedo.,,,

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            • luckyotter says:

              Interesting, thanks for setting me straight. I’m sorry about what happened to you, that sucks. 😦

              I know who Robert Hare is. I read his book “Without Conscience” and thought it was good. I might write up a review of it sometime.

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            • eightyape says:

              i cause havoc for em,, i dont wanttheir care, never did need it,, neeed my family diagnosing,,, they needed me to be ill cos i was differenet with all my feelings…i wouldnt comply so i found my own way,, wnet back to look for a family who i thought were there for me? had a massive emotional breakdiown cos who doent believe their mother?
              im told societally to listen to this pedo bitch?
              im tlold societally to listen to my father an aspergers psychopath professor , top of his game, his kids almost an inconvenience he puts p with for my mother whol ikes tio smother them, even when they are adult…munchausens by proxy x 6.

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            • eightyape says:

              theres youtube vidoes,, he is the boss so to speak on identifying crimial psychopaths, but do not forget that psychopathy was originally termed autistic psychopathy,,,there are similarities , there are crossovers even, there are sociopaths who suffer abuse who are indistinguidhable in behaviour as the psychopath,,,

              heres a vid of dr hare explaining what i did but better and more eloquently with his own little bit of bias,,,
              hes very careful to differentiate betwist the psychopath and autist ,,,its what hes famous for,,,
              i will never forgive him for dropping thew word autism…they are literal like lots of sutists..
              why cant you autists have bad ayutsists?
              the good autists in my family would be able tell the difference then.,,,
              sadly they cant and think its funny to haenously bully people for a quick reaction or “stim”

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        • eightyape says:

          she quit , never saw her again,,, banged off in solitary cos i chased him round the prison wing threatening to kill him.
          id got transferred there after i satrted noticing how the nurses were staeling from the patients in a hospital in hull and one of them accused me of headbutting him when wed had a stand off shouting and both pushed our heads together when i caught him nicking the patients biscuits for himself.
          ten minutes later another patient, a littl epsychopath has set fire to my clothes seeing the oooprtunity told me another patient wanted to seem in my room and grassed me up..
          bosh off yu go to the jial,,,
          no charge no court ,,,
          totally shitfaced on ativan in court too so i had no fucking idea what i even pleaded,,,the guy with th ehadbutt charge got some compo in fact…
          funny how that works…
          i vaguely remeber a room full of people and an agry judge ,,,looked ta my record ten years later?
          id payed him 500 quid compensation for a charge i thought i had denied,, but ide been done for it.
          they bagged the other guy for the fire in the end thankfully so th charge of sarson with intent didnt stick..
          only 17 years they nearly pinned on me for a 500 pound compo cheque.

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      • eightyape says:

        no one on earth knows me or what i have,,, i can bring a psychopath to tears…
        not all of them,, but if theres a chink of conscience in there?
        ill tell em about my mum and how she taught me how to murder stuff and still i always wondered how i might help her..
        still do.
        and no …a bullet is not an acceptable answer,
        though it would work.:)

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  6. eightyape says:

    BUT I TS PATRIARCHY THATS TO BLAME..
    APSERGER IS LIONISED DESPITE BEING A NAZI..
    AND ELIZABETH NEWSON IS FORGOTTEN..
    LOOK UP CALLOUS CONCDUT DISORDER TOO.,..THATS THE BABY PSYCHOPATH,,,
    AND SOME ODD DISORDERS ARE CONSCIOUS PSYCHOPATHY FIXED IN A MODE ETC,,,
    COPYING MIMICKING ECHOLALICALLY SCRIPTING DIALOGUE…
    OFTEN INTO TIME SEGMENTS , THE PSYCHOPATSH AND AUTIST TIME PERCEPTION IS DIUFFFERENT FORM NEUROTYPICAL I SUSPECT
    LIKE TH ANALOGY OF TH DINOSAUR IN JURACSSI PARK,,IF NOTHINGS MOVING ITS LIKE THEY NEED TO BE BUSY….TIES INTO ADHD ,,,AN INABILITY TO FOCUS ON IMPORTANT THINGS,, AVOIDANT DISORDER..

    MORE STUFF ON THE LAY PERSECTIVES ..CEN
    http://www.drjonicewebb.com/emotional-neglect-questionnaire/
    I REALLY LIKE THIS ONE,,,
    EVEN IF YOU SHOW IT TO SOMEONE ITH SEVERE PD??
    IT PINPOINTS WHAT THEY MISSED OUT ON AS A CHILD…
    VERY CLVER LADY,,
    TOO MANY LABELS FOR THE SMAE BEHAVIOURS!!!!
    THE NEUROSCIENTISTS WILLSORT IT OUT,,,
    IN THEIR AUTISTIC WAY.,

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  7. eightyape says:

    more criminology….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

    and this list is good,not so sure about the forum to be frank…yu share yur label? they ban yu…not realising that basically what they doing is anti autism naziism,,,they have confused lacking empathy with posychopathy..
    pda is psychopathic lack of empathy in presentation, but even still its not full blown psychopathy,,,,
    http://outofthefog.website/traits/
    then theres ppd NOS pervasive development disorders not otherwise specified..
    then theres aspergers which is becoming alittle outdated too and will split into groups,,,
    the science is facsinating…
    http://www.sott.net/article/266289-Dark-Tetrad-of-personality-traits-Everyday-sadists-take-pleasure-in-others-pain
    this shows a pocket of psychopathy where the psychopathy is pure sadism,,,
    and its biological..
    that strauctural deficit is linked to a mechanism that biolgicocally wants sto cause others pain and gains pkeasurable sensations form viewing others streess. not just manipulative and callous like all psychopaths but a preteratural sadstic psychopath,,,
    add machivellianism??
    yu get sam vaknin,,,
    proper sicko, stole millions he did,,stil doing it..
    it occurs to mne,, the vido after that one i showed yu?
    is of the sociopath next door..
    i siuspoect thats autism…
    not psychopathy ,, nut they are liuteral..hypnotisable…
    some of em…
    yu aint..
    yet yu got thelogics…
    yu can transalte:)

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    • luckyotter says:

      Thanks, I’ll look at all these.

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      • eightyape says:

        the psychs have a code too, one more to share cluster b, svere, pathological, , co morbid,,yu hear these words? yur likely delaing with a monster ,, of structural nature,,, pparaphilias that arent mentioned so as not to accentuate..the dsm is a therpaeutic book,,its guesswork for bad drug dealers for the most part,,,
        used right? it does no harm,,used worng or insightlessly ? destroys lives..
        it was read and learned by my psychopathic folks before they handed me over,,they knew just what to say,,,they wanted to use me as atest case for them and their autism…i was just copying them though…and only round them,, i was growing and evelopeing normally ,,,if somewhat misbehvaed and a bit angry..
        they took the anger amplified it and fed me to the doctors as aproxy…they wanted me to be autristic,, i wsnt,,, they never mentioned it again but there was a time where they were suggesting it for me..
        but it was bollocks.. maybe maybe maye just ,mildy aspergers..
        im good with tools and an engine and i can focus fo r a long time but its not that natural,,, took a world of work and reading to get close to the fgast processing speedof apserges..
        my father so quick yet empty in converstaion ,,,he will steasl your own thought sinb a second and sell them back to yo aggendised..
        psychopath…
        a bist saidtsic too..
        hes surefire cunt..
        wanna meet him?:
        ill threaten to kill him if he gets out of hand and hell humpf off …
        hes quite ridiculous n his old age..
        my nbrother thouggh?
        do not disturb…
        i need help with him,,, he gets very nasty yu so much as mention autism.
        hes gonna blow his lid when they asess his kid and him by proxy…

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  8. S says:

    You know how N’s lie because they don’t like the truths? We know that. What do you call it when the N(probably a socio or psychopath in this example), makes the lie come true? For example, they say something today which is absurd or highly unlikely to happen. But then, IT HAPPENS. And you just know they were somehow responsible. For example, an attractive female scapegoat who turns heads out in public. The N says to that scapegoat, “No man likes you!” And you say to yourself, that’s not true, but don’t challenge him, let him have his opinion. And then 1-2 years later the woman finds herself somewhat disfigured. I have several examples like that. N mo saying I wouldnt be able to afford the healthcare I needed, or if I should ever be poor. At the time, no hint of those things. Couple of years later I’m ill, poor, alone and not a head turner anymore.

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    • luckyotter says:

      Unfortunately, I think this happens all the time with N’s. They orchestrate things to make an outcome true. A lot of time they accomplish this through triangulation and gaslighting (for example, a narc husband who tells his abused wife no one likes her and then proceeds to turn everyone against her and make himself out to be the real victim through his lies).

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      • S says:

        Thank you. Don’t forget about Munchausens by Proxy. I guess the laymans term for that is poisoning but that sounds too delusional. Yes P’s are known for controlling your soft drinks. Things like the black market IS out there. Google is a blessing in disguise because if the information gets into the wrong hands, that’s not good. Another female in the group that I was formerly a part of also became disfigured in the same way. My belief is that it was done to make the budding head narc female the most, even though in my opinion, she was more lesser to start with. First off, I trusted the people I was with. Secondly I never in my wildest dreams imagined such a thing.

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    • eightyape says:

      self fulfilling prophecies have the most awful power…
      if you believe they do.
      What im trying to say is that the psychopath… for that is surely what you have come into contact with,,,,no sociopath could leave you quite so cold,,
      yud long for his lost soul,,,etc…
      yud miss the slver of person that yu were attracted to..
      but yu were attrcated to the lie,,,
      that menas psychopath for sure or severely enabled pda autist.
      not a sociopath,,,yu didnt lodse him to drugs or ssle fesctrution or jail or war or suicide?
      yu lost him ot himslef,,
      and stop projecting , its all about you..
      or i cant tell if it is,,,the detactchment in the first bit is that the first half of the second bit??
      is ithe “my fiends got thsi proiblem” speech im reading or are yu asking spoecifically for yur quite confusing example..
      out with it,,,
      it aint nbo good mulling over it and im sure yur not hideous,,
      beauty is in the eye ive always thought ,
      yu can have all thw warts and lumps you like,..
      but the right eye??
      thats whats attrractive,,,
      to people who arebt shallow,,and what yu wanna impres shallow people for?

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    • eightyape says:

      there is also one mor type of narcissim…figure out yur monster?? yu will know how to protect yurslef andothers from them,,,dont try to generalise,,,the deisres of these bastards are simple but their selection of victimns/ their assessment? their type?
      can be quite complex and carefully planned..
      you ned to look back to older relationships..
      look whay you were open to this,,, learn about yourslef,, the things you wnated you THOUGHT he /she offered…the thing syou were forced to put up with that you shouldnt of to get those things,,,
      you have a right to them..to be loved , to be cared for, to have your empathy recognised and reciprocated,,,to have friends,, to have money , to be someone..
      to be with people.,.
      you have those rights ,,,and those deisres,,
      and a right to fulfill them without any sort of compromise..
      and sadly thats what yu did,, but in realising that?
      yu wont make the same mistake again..
      and yud be surprised at how attractive confidence can be..

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      • S says:

        Thank you. I guess what I was saying is that there have been numerous losses I’m starting to worry about the future. For example, if a person was disfigured, they probably have some money in the bank or supportive family. My own person was about all I had left.

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    • eightyape says:

      “you have several examples like that” ? er you aint practising therapy are you without getting yur head round psychopaths first? i hope not.
      can you calrify by what you mean? research examples?
      anecdotes gatheree frim the web?
      or actual patients?
      you are inferring voodoo, thats the truth and it is voodoo in some cases,,,mind control, coercion, hypnosis in some cases,,,the psychopathis is essentailly addicted to manipulating and hurting you,,, adicted to doing it whilst they believe you unaware of their machniations.. but they are always expsosed,,the mnore power the take>? the more damage they do…the more oibvious thier fingerprints,,, doomed to fail..moarlly insane as cleckley said..
      they have a self fulfilling prophecy to make themsleves loinely and miserable as a life plan,,,
      and misey?
      loves comapny/
      just say NO CONTACT, with all of em.. yu meet one?
      yu warn it,, you learn to probe and recognise…
      we are all doing it..
      we have to these freaks are out there,,,listening ot our probing shatring excuses and persepectives to excuse themselves..
      yu accept onbe psychopath and finally get away?
      you can feel surrounded…they see youyr pain and home in on it,,,
      yur ripest for more manipulation when yuve been burnt ..

      am i good at this?
      i think im good at this.

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  9. eightyape says:

    http://www.hindawi.com/journals/aurt/2014/743482/ facial anomlaies etc, autism,

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3983590/ genetic deletorious conditions…and links to behvaioural disorder

    http://www.fasdtrust.co.uk/about.php some info on fetal alchohol syndrome, lined to adhd and varoious quite particular types of autism..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rett_syndrome what it says,,another developmental disorder with an old name

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  10. eightyape says:

    i invaded didnt i, sorry excuse me, nothing to c here move along…lol.

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