I just read a comment on this post, which really got me questioning things again.
owl says:
December 1, 2014 at 7:25 am (Edit)
I watched one of his videos tonight and learned that if the narcissist doesn’t involve himself with the public in some ways, it will lead to a much bigger psychosis; it will increase his psychopathy, he will become even worse. So my thought is that he is using his own desire to talk about himself as a way to involve himself in the world, a way to force himself to interact with people, thus setting up a stopgap and preventing a further slide into psychosis. He has already admitted that he has very few sadistic tendencies and in that way he has lucked out bc it could be worse.
I haven’t seen the video Owl has, but I have read the first 100 or so pages of Mr. Vaknin’s book, and must say I’m amazed by this man’s insight into NPD as well as his insight into its victims! After seeing how many pages of testimonials/qualifications are included in the book when I received it the other day, I decided once and for all he was a narcissist (and wrote a post saying so). But now I’m once again not so sure. I just can’t figure it out. He is such an enigma. I don’t know why it even matters but the mystery is driving me nuts.
Owl brings up the fact that Vaknin believes engaging with the public is a way to lessen psychopathic tendencies, and does so to avoid becoming psychopathic or more psychopathic. Which means there must be goodness in him, and possibly even empathy? I still can’t wrap my mind around his motives for writing a self help book for the victims of narcissists–does he have ulterior, dishonest motives, like greed, glory, fame, or just because he wants to show what an expert he is–or maybe it’s possible that he really does want to help survivors heal–which can only indicate the man has empathy! And if he has empathy, then how can he be a narcissist? Unless he’s a very low spectrum one.
Good Lord, I’m just so confused. I wish I could decide if he is or isn’t. I’ll tell you this much though: if Mr. Vaknin IS a narcissist, he must be getting so much narcissistic supply if he’s still reading everything I’ve written about him–and how many comments there have been about him–that I should probably stop this before his head explodes!
I’m a little embarrassed I’m obsessing so much about this thing which really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but as someone with Aspergers, we tend to do that!
This is your blog and you get to write about whatever you want. I might be brand new on my journey to recovery, but I can see that this is what you need right now. Besides, maybe its about time someone looked into this guy and see what he’s all about. And talking about it here is not obsessing. You could change your name to Nancy Drew however. jk
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LOL! 😀
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Oh and I have to engage with the public too, but not to lessen psychopathic tendencies. I have been known to shut down in the house to isolate myself. And may have been agorophobic. Its a symptom. Not just for narcissists.
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I hear you. As someone with Aspergers, I have to almost force myself to go out with other people. I really prefer to hole myself up with my laptop all day and not have to bother with anyone. Weird I know.
I read somewhere that people on the autism spectrum, including aspergers, lack empathy. But they’re wrong. We have the opposite problem that narcissists do–we can feel for others, but don’t know how to express it well, so it appears we may lack empathy. While the narcissist is good at putting on a convincing mask and acting empathetic, but doesn’t feel a thing.
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