Restaurant customers who don’t tip

My son, who works as a waiter at Carrabba’s, served a 50-top today for a large group. Pictured below is the bill, which shows no tip was included.

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Management asked the customer if the service was alright, and they said it was. They told management they thought the tip would be taken out automatically, but I smell bullshit. Management is “taking care of it,” whatever that means.

Wait staff make less than minimum wage, and tips is what they have to live on. While tipping isn’t required, it’s common courtesy and is expected, unless the service was really terrible. Even if this patron only tipped 10% (15%-20% is actually the correct amount to tip), then the wait staff who worked this event should split a tip of $95.50. Really, it should have been nearly twice that.

Not leaving a tip for a large bill like this, when the service was satisfactory, is rude beyond belief, considering the amount of work required by the wait staff, who could have been serving smaller tables and making more money.

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34 thoughts on “Restaurant customers who don’t tip

  1. We don’t have this in the UK. Waiting staff are paid a fair wage and tipping is optional. I often don’t tip unless of course they were friendly and engaged in some sort of chat rather than as some do just dump the plate down and disappear. Basically standard service gets no tip but a more personal service does. Obviously it is different where you are 😦 and with a bill like that I’m sure they could have afforded to leave something.

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    • I never understood why servers are paid this way–it’s the only job that doesn’t have to abide by minimum wage laws. I think servers should be paid a fair wage too, like in the UK, because tips are not guaranteed, just expected. Obviously this was a big job and the people who worked this event should have been paid accordingly.

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        • I’ve noticed that entitled rich people who never had to work a service job in their lives are the ones who are most likely to treat service staff like crap or not leave tips. I think it should be a requirement for EVERYONE to have to work this type of a job for a few months, and maybe they would grow some empathy. (unless they’re narcissists of course)

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    • Because of the way tipping works here in the US, as luckyotter described, where servers don’t get minimum wage, when I lived in the UK, I was always confused about when are where it was appropriate to tip, and felt embarrassed when I didn’t!

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  2. Jeez, what cheap skates! I always leave a tip on the table no matter if the service was good or bad, I don’t know what kind of day or what personal things my server is experiencing, but I do know that they work hard for their money and are usually very under paid, that extra 5 to 10 bucks could be the difference of whether or not their kid gets a jug of milk and some food or not, it could mean the difference of gas money or bus fare to get them home or to work, it could be for anything, it’s common courtesy to leave a tip, it’s the right thing to do, I really dislike cheapskates they irk me, especially when the waiter/waitress worked so very hard to make sure your order was just perfect and catered to your every want and often insane and unreal demands, and they did so with a smile on their face!

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    • ” I always leave a tip on the table no matter if the service was good or bad,”

      If the service is bad, you are only ENCOURAGING the server to CONTINUE that bad behavior. I helped get 3 servers fired over the years and VERY PROUD of it to get the ones that RUIN our outings and lives during that time. One STOLE REFUSED to give someone at our table their $9 in change, like REFUSED to give it back said she didn’t have a “change bank.” She got fired. She decided to do something very illegal which is steal and morally wrong. I glad I got the bitch fired. You want to do wrong, you should get done wrong to you. The other 2 were very rude.

      ” I don’t know what kind of day or what personal things my server is experiencing,”

      As far as what day they are having, they don’t care if someone at the table lost their job, so why should it be unfair? This is BUSINESS, so personal issues should be completely taken out the equation of tipping.

      “but I do know that they work hard for their money””

      A lot of servers don’t work hard for their money. I have seen lazy servers not writing things down you ask for(especially orders), asking if you want change to shorten their walking because they are lazy, not verifying what table had what food, etc.

      Some don’t work hard for their money, so why should they get a good tip for being lazy?

      “it’s common courtesy to leave a tip, it’s the right thing to do,”

      Yes for GOOD or at least DECENT service it is the right thing to do I agree 100% COMPLETELY, but NOT for the lazy servers that are lazy and rude, it’s not. You should get what you give into the job in terms of *EFFORT* and *NICENESS*. I don’t tip as well if I get a server that refuses to apologize for their mistakes and will tip even less if they try to blame someone else for their mistakes.

      ” when the waiter/waitress worked so very hard to make sure your order was just perfect ”

      A lot of servers don’t do this though. I have recommended NICELY some servers write my order down, which they refused, got many things wrong. They refused to *TRY* their best, therefore, why should they get a good tip for that?

      “often insane and unreal demands,”

      There’s actually NO SUCH THING as this, PERIOD! Also demands are not asking nicely for things. There’s nothing insane to ask for. If you don’t want to work, there’s the door.

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      • While of course there are bad servers (and I’m not sure I would tip them if they are excessively rude or incompetent) , this comment seems a little hostile in general. I’m still approving it because I don’t believe in only approving comments that are positive or that I agree with. This person has a right to their opinion; maybe they have had bad experiences with servers. But all that being said, servers have a hard, grueling job without many perks or benefits. Many of them are single parents trying to put food on the table, and their tips are the only way they can feed their kids (try living on $3.00 an hour, not unheard of as base pay for a server). If a server is rude, maybe they are having a terrible day and were just chewed out by another customer or screamed at by the manager. It’s hard to keep a smile on your face if you were just insulted or cursed at. Maybe they are in an abusive relationship or can’t meet their bills and are consumed with worry and despair. Or sometimes maybe they ARE just bitches. But you don’t know if they are just rude, or if they are having a bad day (or a bad life). Take it from one who has had many service jobs: most of them suck, and the compensation doesn’t even begin to make up for some of the abuse we must take from both customers and management.

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        • “Many of them are single parents trying to put food on the table, and their tips are the only way they can feed their kids (try living on $3.00 an hour, not unheard of as base pay for a server).”

          Many customers may have just gotten laid off. Also, having kids(unless you are raped), is a *CHOICE* in most cases, that means if you can’t afford a kid, close your legs. My server’s tip has ZERO to do with their personal lives. They sure don’t care when I was laid off for almost a year from Dec. 2011 until Oct. of 2012(got the job I have now since the beginning of Oct 2012).

          ” Maybe they are in an abusive relationship or can’t meet their bills and are consumed with worry and despair. or if they are having a bad day (or a bad life). ”

          WHY should this be a part of tipping when it’s not? Doesn’t matter ANY of this. Servers don’t care about our personal issues, do they?

          I don’t care. I care how I am treated. They can choose to be nice even if someone was mean. If you do take it out on your customer, you should go back to them to apologize if that’s the case.

          ” Many of them are single parents trying to put food on the table”

          As I said before, I could care less just as they don’t care if I am a single parent or not. This has ZERO to do with tipping. Tipping is not a charity. Tipping is a *BUSINESS TRANSACTION*, NOTHING personal in it. The service is personal to the customer and visa versa(meaning no one should be rude and respect each other), but the tipping part is only related to the service issues in the service ONLY, it’s not about if you decided to f** every tom, dick, and harry or decided to not use birth control or decided to have sexual intercourse before marriage(I waited until I was married to have intercourse myself at age 25yrs old(I am not now 37yrs old). These issues you bring up shouldn’t be involved in the tipping process since they have ZERO to do with the service. You want a charity, then get YOUR OWN DONATION JAR! I mean really. As I said, no one cared when I was laid off. Servers still expected us to continue to tip the same REGARDLESS of one missing income. I know I could have gotten a fast food job, but as you know that the industry the person is in that got laid off usually makes a lot more in their industry to try to hold out for the good pay they had before.

          I am not sure WHY in the world do you talk about “PERSONAL” issues when tipping is not about them at all? If you decided to have sexual intercourse, that’s on *YOU* if you have a kid you can’t afford. Let’s say the server’s husband dies, well they decided to have a kid in the first place knowing yes that can happen in life. While it’s not expected, it’s something every woman should consider before having kids that if their spouse dies or gets disabled, can they AFFORD a kid or kids. If the answer is NO WAY, then you shouldn’t be trying to have kids then or risking it OR you can give your child up for adoption as a lot of people that can’t afford kids do these days.

          STOP with the “I feel so sorry for servers” SOB STORIES! It’s not all about you servers. Our PERSONAL LIVES COUNT TOO JUST AS MUCH AS YOURS DOES. Also, you servers serve servers too, so I don’t understand this sob story stuff? You decide what you can afford in life when it comes to having kids. As I said before, I waited until marriage at the very least to risk it. I knew I didn’t want to be a single mom without having any husband. I know your spouse can die, but at least if you are married you can get some money usually compared to if you aren’t.

          ” But you don’t know if they are just rude,”

          Would you like your customers to tell you that? I bet you sure wouldn’t. You’d tell me there’s no excuse to be rude, aren’t I right? If so, then the same should go for you servers.

          The day my boss laid me off in 2011, I sure wasn’t happy. I cried the entire way home while driving. I had worked there almost 6yrs. I know that’s not a lot, a lot, but I thought I’d be working until I retired there honestly. Anyway, let’s say that night if I would have gone out to eat, do you think it would have been right of me to be rude to my server because of my personal issues? NO, and it wouldn’t be right either to keep them there while I tell them when other customers need their refills or their check either that I am holding their service up.

          I don’t get the ONE-SIDED CARING as if just SERVER’S FEELINGS ARE THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING when it comes to tipping? We have feelings too us customers and have problems just like you servers. You act like we are robots that have no feelings either just to have concern about your feelings, but not ours. If you decided to risk having kids, why is that a tipping issue? Don’t blame me because you can’t feed your kid. Blame YOURSELF for RISKING having a kid in the first place if you clearly couldn’t afford one. Don’t blame your bad choices on the customer.

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      • wow…just wow! I don’t even know how to respond to this, I work in a restaurant/bar , not as a server but as the head cook/chef and I can assure you that yes there is indeed insane requests and demands made from time to time not just on the wait staff but also on the cooks , the customer is NOT always right, I won’t say what I think of such customers, but suffice it to say it works both ways… don’t like the service then there’s the door, feel free to use it at anytime, and have a nice day 🙂

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        • The saying “the customer is always right” needs to be put out of its misery. It’s simply false. If a customer steals from you does that mean they’re “right” and you shouldn’t call the cops? If a customer pulls out a gun on an employee, does that make them right too?

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        • ” I can assure you that yes there is indeed insane requests and demands made from time to time ”

          No there aren’t. You sound VERY LAZY! Also, most customers ask NICELY for things. So there aren’t “DEMANDS.” Asking nicely is not demanding anyone to do anything.

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          • this is the last time I respond, I have Googled you spring1 and you have been banned from many many sites for spewing your hatred and ignorance towards those who work in the food service industry, I also checked out your blog where you are quite free to spew your hostile and venomous views, you swear at and call people names when they disagree with you, just as you have done here, I will not be a part of your rage, if you wish to believe that I am lazy then so be it, I won’t stoop to your level to even bother with a retort, I will ask you nicely to leave this lovely blog , it needs not be soiled by the likes of you. have a pleasant evening.

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            • Thanks for looking into this, BC. Any further comments from this person will be edited and possibly removed. I welcome dissenting opinions, but I want to keep a peaceful website here. I had no idea this topic would become so controversial!

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      • Asking if you need change is commonplace, it’s a polite way of verifying they have permission to keep the extra money you handed them. It’s not to “avoid walking more” which, by the way, is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. Although not as dumb as accusing a server of “ruining your lives during that time.” Your life is not going to fall apart at the seams just because your server forgot the extra butter you requested. As you said, “This is BUSINESS, so personal issues should be completely taken out the equation of tipping.” Please heed your own advice and leave your hyperdramatic nitpicky issues at home when you go out to eat. Or take a tranq. Or better yet, quit trying to blame “poor service” for your obvious attempts to cheapskate your way out of leaving a tip. This is America, jack, and that’s how shit works in this country whether you like it or not. If no one else can do it as well as you then stay the fuck at home and cook your own food and wash your own dishes. You will not be missed.

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        • The commenter who posted that should stop eating in restaurants if it’s going to “ruin” his or her life. Cook your own food and wash your own dishes, that way you’ll have no one to blame bad service for but your self.

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        • “Asking if you need change is commonplace, it’s a polite way of verifying they have permission to keep the extra money you handed them. ”

          How is it polite to *ASK* for your tip? It’s not polite to try to do the LEAST WORK for your money. That’s not polite. Soliciting money isn’t polite and you know it.

          “It’s not to “avoid walking more” which, by the way, is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.”

          HOW when it’s less work to do it your way?

          ” Although not as dumb as accusing a server of “ruining your lives during that time.” Your life is not going to fall apart at the seams just because your server forgot the extra butter you requested.”

          It ruins my life at the time and even years later if the service was REALLY bad. It’s not about if they forgot something either, it’s how they handled it and did they try their best. Most of the issues that affect me still today were the rude, mean servers, and the ones that were very lazy.

          ” As you said, “This is BUSINESS, so personal issues should be completely taken out the equation of tipping.” Please heed your own advice and leave your hyperdramatic nitpicky issues at home when you go out to eat.”

          Then according to you, I can be rude to my server then? NO, I can’t. What I was saying personal issues about was stuff that isn’t restaurant related like if the server or customer has kids or are they a single parent having financial issues.

          Being nice though *IS* a part of service in a restaurant. So NO, you are wrong. That’s not what I meant and you know it.

          ” Or better yet, quit trying to blame “poor service” for your obvious attempts to cheapskate your way out of leaving a tip.”

          I am not doing that. It’s not about money. You are an idiot if you think that way. It’s about wanting PERFECTION. I don’t want things to go wrong. When they do, I expect them to apologize just as I have when I have forgotten to ask for stuff. It’s just COMMON COURTESY.

          I would rather any day pay a $50 meal and 25%-30% tip be HAPPY with NO PROBLEMS vs. a miserable time with comps on the meal and even coupons for the next visit with no tipping to the server. It’s NOT ABOUT MONEY. YOU ARE STUPID IF YOU THINK THAT IT’S ABOUT MONEY. IT’S ABOUT NOT WANTING PROBLEMS!

          Remember, the customer can’t control if the server is lazy and doesn’t care. It’s not my fault I get poor service at times. I can’t make them try their best and be nice. You know that’s the GOD’S HONEST TRUTH, just admit it.

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  3. Reblogged this on galesmind and commented:
    Whoever did this to their server really needs to go to cheaper places. If you can’t afford a tip don’t do a large party like this. Servers work long hours for little pay. They go home with aching feet and hopefully enough money to make the bills. I am ashamed for this party that did that. I have gone back behind people and left a bit more because I worked as a waitress as a kid and know how hard it is. I am sure the people at that table had no problem demanding his services. It isn’t just rude it is cruel. Shame on them.

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    • It is cruel. People who do this have no idea what a hard job a server has, or they just don’t care. They feel entitled and “above” the people who wait on them and have to put up with them. Thanks for reblogging!

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  4. That was just rotten. I always tip, but then I come from a background that makes me understanding how important those tips are to the wait staff. Sometimes if a meal is especially good, I even send a tip back to the cook. Not that I’m made of money, but I eat out so rarely that I really appreciate good service and quality cooking.

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  5. Not paying at least minimum wage for a server position makes no sense to me. But I’m also not one of those people against tipping. I’ve read those opinion pieces on whether you’re for or against tipping, and for servers I’m definitely for it. I’ll admit I’m not for it for everything that we’re expected to tip for though. (Like hair stylists, even though I tip them too.)

    I like to tip the 20% generally…as long as the server is at least friendly. If they’re rude, well, that’s a different story.

    If they’re extra attentive, like the last waiter who served us when my roomy took me out for my birthday, I’ll leave even more than 20%. And that’s the thing with this job. If you’re good and get a job at a high end restaurant (not that we were at a hi-end place…we went to Dave’s BBQ, lol) servers can potentially make some serious money.

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    • It can be a very good job. My son sometimes makes $500 in one WEEKEND. Of course, it’s not like that all the time–if it was, server jobs would be much more in demand. Serving tables is feast or famine.

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  6. 10% if service was bad
    15% if service was okay
    20% if service was good

    That’s how I usually do it. Wife used to be a server, so we usually trend towards 20%.

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  7. Commenters have a right to their opinions, but any more abusive comments and namecalling of other comenters from Springs1 will be removed. You have been forewarned.

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